MasterOne, 2014-04-29 15:43 »
Non Hic wrote:The people actually spoken that they do NOT want or like walled gardens prisons. Even though Android has Google Play in it, it is NOT like Apple's iOS or Microsoft's Windows Phone.
How many people are getting applications through sideloading? Maybe less than 1%? 0.5%? I think the average consumer wants a walled garden, no matter if you and I like it or not. I've talked to people face to face about how much they love their little prisons. It's sad, but it's reality. They're done finagling with the Win32 desktop to get their shit done. People have had enough. MSI files, registry woes, Visual C++ redistributable packages, etc. The technically challenged don't want to deal with anything technical. They want a company to erect the walls, and out come the credit cards. Yes, you and I don't like it, but we are not average consumers. You mentioned that you'd dealt with people who you showed how to escape out of the walled cesspit, but I haven't met any of those people here. In fact, I've met technical people who love their walled cesspit.
Like I said, not everybody likes combing over and modifying Linux config files like me. To them, it's worth losing their freedom for the convenience. That's why I'm such a big proponent of free software. I want to have control over my machine, you know, the one that belongs to me, not the developer. Free software is the only way for that to be possible. I think Google won the smartphone game by the OS being free (as in free beer), good maps, a good UI, Google integration, lots of devices to choose from, good marketing, and cheap devices. Yes, some non-tech consumers see it as a more open platform, but they're not zeroing in on the sideloading capability. They're seeing that they can buy a device not supplied by Crapple,
and save money.
http://bgr.com/2014/02/18/android-iphon ... omparison/ Average people aren't smart enough to understand what the implications on the users are if sideloading functionality isn't there. And even if they did, do you think they would give two shits to hear what you have to say about it? No, they wouldn't. Jersey Shore is more important.
Microsoft has to go in the cloud direction if they want to be competitive. Just because you don't like the idea, and you know I agree with you, you have to think of the Jersey Shore people that want to view recipes and football scores on their devices. That's why I said they should still offer a non-cloud version of Windows for you and me, but I wouldn't count on it. Microsoft is going to whatever necessary to make as much money as they can, and to keep the Windows stronghold going. It's possible by not offering a non-cloud version of Windows that this would alienate developers to a point where development for the cloud version of Windows will falter. So, Microsoft, you be careful with this one.
Maybe you should install Linux on a second hard drive and see how it works for you. With virtualization, you can run whatever you need using VMWare or VirtualBox. I'm currently using openSUSE 13.1 x64 with the just released KDE 4.13, but that's my personal taste, and I do try other distros from time to time. I've always came back to openSUSE because it's polished and has a good community behind it.
[quote="Non Hic"]The people actually spoken that they do NOT want or like walled gardens prisons. Even though Android has Google Play in it, it is NOT like Apple's iOS or Microsoft's Windows Phone.[/quote]
How many people are getting applications through sideloading? Maybe less than 1%? 0.5%? I think the average consumer wants a walled garden, no matter if you and I like it or not. I've talked to people face to face about how much they love their little prisons. It's sad, but it's reality. They're done finagling with the Win32 desktop to get their shit done. People have had enough. MSI files, registry woes, Visual C++ redistributable packages, etc. The technically challenged don't want to deal with anything technical. They want a company to erect the walls, and out come the credit cards. Yes, you and I don't like it, but we are not average consumers. You mentioned that you'd dealt with people who you showed how to escape out of the walled cesspit, but I haven't met any of those people here. In fact, I've met technical people who love their walled cesspit.
Like I said, not everybody likes combing over and modifying Linux config files like me. To them, it's worth losing their freedom for the convenience. That's why I'm such a big proponent of free software. I want to have control over my machine, you know, the one that belongs to me, not the developer. Free software is the only way for that to be possible. I think Google won the smartphone game by the OS being free (as in free beer), good maps, a good UI, Google integration, lots of devices to choose from, good marketing, and cheap devices. Yes, some non-tech consumers see it as a more open platform, but they're not zeroing in on the sideloading capability. They're seeing that they can buy a device not supplied by Crapple, [i]and[/i] save money. http://bgr.com/2014/02/18/android-iphone-price-comparison/ Average people aren't smart enough to understand what the implications on the users are if sideloading functionality isn't there. And even if they did, do you think they would give two shits to hear what you have to say about it? No, they wouldn't. Jersey Shore is more important.
Microsoft has to go in the cloud direction if they want to be competitive. Just because you don't like the idea, and you know I agree with you, you have to think of the Jersey Shore people that want to view recipes and football scores on their devices. That's why I said they should still offer a non-cloud version of Windows for you and me, but I wouldn't count on it. Microsoft is going to whatever necessary to make as much money as they can, and to keep the Windows stronghold going. It's possible by not offering a non-cloud version of Windows that this would alienate developers to a point where development for the cloud version of Windows will falter. So, Microsoft, you be careful with this one.
Maybe you should install Linux on a second hard drive and see how it works for you. With virtualization, you can run whatever you need using VMWare or VirtualBox. I'm currently using openSUSE 13.1 x64 with the just released KDE 4.13, but that's my personal taste, and I do try other distros from time to time. I've always came back to openSUSE because it's polished and has a good community behind it.